65. Getting Uncomfortable with Navy Seal John Doolittle
Today, Laura welcomes John Doolittle, a retired Navy SEAL Captain and currently a certified KAATSU Master Specialist who serves as the Chief Revenue Officer of KAATSU Global. Laura and John open the conversation by talking about John’s swimming background and introduction to the Air Force Academy. Supported by his trusted mentor Mike, John decided to join the BUD/S training and become a Navy SEAL. Although the training was one of the most challenging and hardest periods of his life, it served as a great introduction to Navy life.
From becoming a team player to developing mental toughness, John says this program taught him some of the most valuable lessons in life. He dives deep into the power of trust and how it can be applied in sports, too, not just in the military. He goes on to explain the importance of adopting the ‘never quit’ mindset, highlighting its very powerful and contagious nature. Laura and John also address mental health in sports and the military, pointing out the importance of having strong team support and adequate resources. Finally, John shares an inspiring story about his solo swim across the English Channel to raise money for the Navy SEAL Foundation. He offers an inspiring conclusion to this extraordinary episode by stressing that you can accomplish anything in life if you do it for a reason greater than yourself.
Episode Highlights:
John’s swimming background and introduction to the Air Force Academy
Going from the Air Force Academy to the Navy
The challenging journey of getting into the BUD/S class
The three phases of BUD/S training
Mental toughness vs. physical toughness
Learning to be a team player
Adopt a ‘never give up’ mentality
The importance of trust in teamwork and relationships
The power of little things
Protecting the homeland after 9/11
Pushing yourself without hitting the breaking point
John’s solo swim across the English Channel to raise money for the Navy SEAL Foundation
Quotes:
“One of my biggest takeaways from my time in the teams was about relationships based on trust. And you know why - that starts with our parents, but it also starts with mentors.”
“Everyone fails physically pretty quick. That first night, you go to failure on just about everything you do. But the mental piece is so important. And you learn very quickly, that when you thought your body was done, you actually do have more to give.”
“You quickly learn at BUD/S training that if you're trying to do something as an individual, you will fail. There are very few things, even this swimming in BUD/S, you can't do it by yourself. Everybody has a swim buddy. And if the two of you fail, don't make the time, you both failed the swim.”
“Part of the goal with that type of training is to identify those that when they get really uncomfortable, when they get really tired, they end up making decisions that maybe are not the best. And whether or not somebody is going to quit, you want to identify that pretty early on.”
“'Never quit mindset' is very, very powerful and contagious to others on the team.”
“When you're doing something really hard in life, try and find a way to do it for something that's bigger than yourself, it's bigger than you, to do it for a reason greater than yourself and you can do damn near anything.”
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12. US Navy EOD Officer to Gold Medal Paralympian with Brad Snyder
This week marks one year out from the 2021 Paralympic Games in Tokyo, and Laura is deeply honored to welcome Gold Medal Paralympian, Brad Snyder, to the podcast today. A highly experienced competitive swimmer, Brad graduated from the US Naval Academy and was deployed to Iraq and later to Afghanistan as an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Officer. After six months in Afghanistan, Brad sustained complete vision loss as a result of the explosion of an improvised explosive device (IED). What’s incredible about Brad is not what happened to him that fateful day, but as you will hear, how he responded to it.
Brad begins by detailing his start in swimming, the impact that becoming the swim team captain in college had upon him, and how he found himself in the role of an EOD Officer.
Brad then recounts the stories of his deployments, including the day of his injury, the effects of losing his sight, and his eventual return to swimming and rebuilding his identity. He and Laura discuss the power of celebrating the process as well as the outcomes in athletics, and Brad shares his Paralympic experiences, the reasons for writing his memoir, what he is up to these days, and just how the pandemic shutdown has affected him and his training. Brad concludes by recommending Ryan Holiday’s The Obstacle is the Way, a book for which he has the greatest respect. As Laura notes, Paralympians ‘have a unique strength of character that combines mental toughness, physical ability, and outstanding agility’ whose performances ‘often redefine the boundaries of possibility’. Brad Snyder embodies all of these qualities and more, as you will find out in this inspired and inspiring episode today.
Episode Highlights:
Brad’s start in swimming
The impact of becoming his team’s leader
His road to becoming an Explosive Ordnance Disposal Officer and his experiences in that role
Brad’s deployments
The day of his injury
Existential depression vs. momentary frustration
Brad’s return to the pool
Losing his ability to serve and its impact on his sense of identity
Rebuilding his identity
Process and outcomes
Brad’s Paralympic experiences and how they compare with each other
His memoir Fire in My Eyes and his reasons for writing it
What Brad is up to these days
How the COVID-19 shutdown has affected him
Ryan Holiday’s The Obstacle is the Way
Quotes:
“We’ve been water people my whole life.”
“It was so humbling to go to the pool for the first time and watch what competitive swimming was all about.”
“My bailiwick is leadership.”
“In the modern era, what we do predominantly is the mitigation of explosive hazards in support of military operations worldwide.”
“They were able to save my face, but they weren’t able to save my eyes, unfortunately…the good news is I walked away with my life.”
“I’m never going to be who I was, and that shouldn’t prevent me from being who I am.”
“So much of our frustration in our daily lives comes from a mismatch of expectation.”
“It felt nice to go back to doing something I was good at.”
“Statistically, I actually think my blind times may be as or faster than my able-bodied times.”
“I felt like I belonged…I felt fulfilled.”
“You have to be vulnerable. You have to learn how to make a mistake, but then vow not to do it again, and to learn something from it.”
“I love how you just keep challenging yourself.”
“We’re on the road to Tokyo full force.”
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