110. Overcoming Nerves & Gaining Confidence with Elite Gymnast Dulcy Caylor
Laura delves into the dynamic world of elite gymnastics with the prodigiously talented Dulcy Caylor on the podcast this week. Highlighting the essential blend of physical prowess and mental fortitude, Dulcy's journey from clinching gold medals at a tender young age to aiming for the 2024 Olympic trials encapsulates the essence of determination and resilience. As you will hear, today’s episode not only uncovers the universal battle with nerves that athletes face but also emphasizes the crucial role of mental training alongside physical preparation.
Dulcy's candid insights into overcoming competition anxiety, her strategic approach to training, and the invaluable support from figures like Simone Biles exemplify the intricate tapestry of challenges and triumphs defining an athlete's journey to excellence. Her narrative further reveals the profound bond of camaraderie among gymnasts, transcending age and experience, fostering a united front in the pursuit of their Olympic dreams. Through detailed discussions on the Olympic trials process, the significance of a supportive ecosystem, and Dulcy's personal strategies for combating nerves, listeners are offered a unique glimpse into the relentless pursuit of gold. Her insightful dialogue with Laura here today stands as a testament to the power of perseverance, mentorship, and the indomitable spirit of young athletes such as Dulcy, who navigate the complexities of elite sports with grace and steadfast ambition.
Episode Highlights:
Ambitious beginnings to senior success
Overcoming mental hurdles
Customized coaching for peak performance
Resilience through ups and downs
Building a supportive environment
Strategic mindset and preparation
Aspirations beyond the mat
Navigating the path to Olympic Trials
Quotes:
"Even the most elite athletes battle with fear, nerves, anxiety, impostor syndrome...they are overcomeable."
"I am obsessed with gymnastics, but once I started getting into level nine, level eight...I really wanted to go as far as I can with this."
"Age doesn't matter in this now. It's 16 and up and you just have to compete with it."
"You can't let anything spiral...I care too much that I'm not going to care."
"It's those tiny little changes sometimes that are the hardest because you have to focus so differently."
"Keep your dream in mind every day. If you really want it, work for it every time, as much as you can."
"Work hard and work smart."
"Have fun with it every single day. It's still the sport that you loved as a kid."
"I would love to do something that helps people."
"I'm keeping my options open, but I also have my eyes on ‘28."
"If you set your mind to something, it's going to happen."
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109. Celebrating the Stories of Women Athletes with Flame Bearers Founder Jamie Mittelman
Joining Laura on the podcast this week is Jamie Mittelman, the visionary founder of Flame Bearers, a groundbreaking platform dedicated to amplifying the voices of women Olympians and Paralympians worldwide. Through immersive podcasts, compelling videos, and dynamic live events, Jamie breathes life into champion stories, illuminating their triumphs, tribulations, and the societal issues that shape their paths. Today, our guest shares profound insights into her mission, underscoring the transformative power of narratives and the indomitable spirit of athletes.
As you will hear, Jamie's unwavering commitment to storytelling and championing women athletes has propelled her to spotlight their remarkable odysseys, from renowned icons to unsung heroines across the globe. Together, she and Laura embark on a deep dive into the realms of women's sports, entrepreneurship, and the transcendent influence of storytelling, unraveling the essence of Flame Bearers' mission and the compelling narratives driving positive change in the athletic sphere. Jamie's journey from athlete to entrepreneur uncovers the vital steps to success, from crafting robust business strategies to fostering resilient communities, all while championing authenticity, resilience, and empowerment in the pursuit of athletic excellence. Join Laura and Jamie here today for this inspiring and instructive examination into the intricate tapestry of women's sports, and the boundless potential of storytelling.
Episode Highlights:
The story of Flame Bearers
Representation in sports media
The power of storytelling
Authenticity in branding
Resilience and adversity
Community and support systems
Challenges in media representation
Future of Flame Bearers
Building a successful business
Quotes:
"Historically, 95% of sports coverage has gone to male athletes, but we're making progress. There's a quantity and a quality issue when it comes to women's sports coverage."
"The best way to get people to care is to build an emotional connection, and I think the best way to do that is with stories."
"Share who you actually are, not just the highlight reel. Sponsors gravitate towards people who are being vulnerable because fans can relate to them."
"Flame Bearers' vision is to become the go-to storytelling platform for elite women athletes, centering their stories through podcasts, videos, and live events."
"No one person can do it all... Surround yourself with people who could have your back and who can fill those holes."
"I want to make sure that we don't forget how we got there... Acknowledging those first trailblazers and making sure they feel validated and seen."
"Literally every piece that I do, it's kind of like a love letter to that athlete... I want to tell their story how they want it told."
"You can have the best story in the world, but if nobody hears it, does it make a difference?... Jamie is giving them the opportunity to connect, and that's huge."
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107. My Untold Journey Through Trials with Pursuit of Gold Host Laura Wilkinson
In this special episode, listeners are invited to explore Laura's journey to Olympic triumph, shaped by resilience and determination. Approaching the 24th anniversary of a pivotal moment in her life, personal audio clips, as shared here today, recount significant moments along her journey that profoundly impacted her path. Laura’s tale of being a young diver filled with Olympic dreams and facing momentous decisions at times of relative uncertainty inspires many of the episode's themes such as overcoming adversity, embracing gratitude, and finding strength in challenges.
Using this momentous event as a springboard, the episode delves into resilience amidst adversity, from life-altering decisions to recovering from injuries. Through this intimate account, listeners gain insights into how resilience shapes Laura's responses to life's trials, and how gratitude emerges as transformative amidst setbacks, shifting her focus towards opportunities and fostering a positive mindset. As you will hear, community support proves vital in overcoming obstacles, brilliantly highlighting the importance of unity, and each setback becomes a chance for growth, paving the way towards Olympic success. As the world looks ahead to the upcoming Paris Olympics, Laura’s very personal reflection here today offers timely, hard-earned lessons and insights from her own stellar career that will prove invaluable to all those engaged in their own Pursuit of Gold.
Episode Highlights:
Facing career-altering decisions and overcoming devastating injuries
Embracing gratitude amid setbacks
Transforming obstacles into opportunities, fostering resilience, and maintaining a positive mindset
The pivotal role of coaches, teammates, and loved ones
How each setback serves as a chance for growth and self-discovery
Persevering through setbacks and challenges
Reflecting on past challenges
The anticipation building for the forthcoming Olympics in Paris
Conquering uncertainty and fully committing to Olympic dreams
How moments of reflection and gratitude provide solace and fortify determination in the face of adversity
Quotes:
"Every cloud really does have a silver lining. If you open your eyes, you'll find it."
"Recognize that although you may not be happy with the competition, there is more to life than that competition."
"Sometimes we will win that amazing gold medal and sometimes we'll miss it. But amazing things still happen because I didn't give up."
"Every obstacle that we face, there is an opportunity inside of it, but we have to be willing to find it."
"Find things to be grateful for. In the middle of the tough, in the middle of the painful, in the middle of the hard, there is something to be thankful for. Fill your mind with that and focus on those things."
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104. Scaling New Heights with 2024 Sport Climbing Olympian Natalia Grossman
At just 22 years old, Natalia Grossman’s incredible track record of success includes winning Gold and Silver at the 2021 International Federation of Sport Climbing (IFSC) Climbing World Championships, 19 podium finishes at World Cup events and, most recently, qualifying for the 2024 Paris Olympics. Today, this rapidly rising superstar sits down with Laura to candidly discuss a number of topics, including her awe-inspiring journey to the pinnacle of her sport, the trials of relocating for climbing, facing online criticism, and the transformative experience of turning pro.
Diving into the complexities of competitive athletics, Laura and Natalia illuminate the mental fortitude required to navigate the highs and lows of elite sports. From the weight of expectations to the quest for balance and mental well-being, they dissect the emotional journey with honesty and vulnerability. The episode unfolds with a raw exploration of the toll of external scrutiny and the healing power of open communication within a strong support network while also offering insights on discipline, resilience, and the profound joy of pursuing one's passion. Sharing her experiences here today, Natalia joins Laura in taking listeners on an inspirational journey of self-discovery that embraces the pursuit of excellence with renewed determination and purpose, serving as a beacon of inspiration for all those seeking to conquer their own challenges and achieve greatness in their endeavors.
Episode Highlights:
Natalia’s remarkable journey
Balancing training, competitions, and schooling
Natalia's shift from gymnastics to climbing
Confronting online criticism
Finding joy in climbing
Natalia's triumphs amid setbacks
Looking ahead to the Olympic Games and beyond
Managing expectations and public scrutiny
Quotes:
"I was just training for fun, and I ended up winning. Then I thought, 'Well, now I have to keep doing them!'"
"I think one of the biggest things that drew me to the sport was how the community was so close and it's a lot smaller of a sport."
"It was just new to me to be going to new countries every month with my team and just getting to compete."
"You never forget your first World Cup win. It was just so cool having everyone there."
"Don't google your name... I think having people around you that have got your back is a big deal."
"Getting it out and talking to people who, you know, love and care about you no matter what, I think that's really important."
"I'm a lot more than just a climber.”
"You can't control what the other person is doing, especially if it's not like a combat sport. You know what I mean? You're not really like controlling the other person necessarily."
"When you go, I guess, pro, and then you have sponsors and you feel like you're supposed to perform to their wants and your income can be based on performance, that can sometimes add another layer of pressure."
"What's done is done. We can't go back and change it, right. So now this is a new opportunity."
"Just listen to your body and if you feel tired, take that rest day. It's okay to take rest days."
"If I'm not having fun, it's not worth it. And if I'm not having fun, I'm not going to perform very well."
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102. From the Platform to the Podium with Olympic Silver Medalist Jessica Parratto
Two-time Olympian, Olympic Silver Medalist, twelve-time National Champion, NCAA Champion, and World Championship Bronze Medalist, Jessica Parratto, is Laura’s very special guest on the podcast this week. With deep aquatic roots in her family, Jessica’s journey was almost inevitable, as her mother was her coach until age 14, and her father once coached Olympic legend Jenny Thompson. Jessica shares her remarkable story in this episode, from her daring decision to leave home at 14 to train at the National Training Center to her tumultuous Rio Olympics experience, partnership with Delaney Schnell, pursuit of Olympic medals, and specialization in synchronized diving.
Jessica’s candid conversation with Laura details her unique upbringing, the parental support in choosing her path, and her journey to becoming an elite diver. Showcasing the power of passion, determination, and strong team support, her journey epitomizes determination and resilience, from pivotal synchronized diving partnership decisions to her comeback from retirement. Her collaboration with Delaney Schnell highlights teamwork, trust, and the relentless pursuit of Olympic glory, and beyond the pool, Jessica's story illuminates her life outside diving, emphasizing her supportive family and deep friendships with fellow divers. Tune in here today to share in this truly fascinating tale of all the sacrifices and joys of chasing Olympic dreams from two superstars who have experienced them firsthand.
Episode Highlight:
Jessica's aquatic family background
Her bold choice to leave home at 14 for National Training
Jessica’s Olympic journey
Her discovery of a passion for synchronized diving
The role of mental strength in her career
The importance of setting boundaries for focus and success
Navigating the challenges of Olympic trials, embracing the Olympic experience, and dealing with unexpected situations
Insights into Jessica’s Rio Olympics experience and post-Rio career plans
Adapting to the pandemic's impact on the Tokyo Olympics and making a comeback
Demonstrating determination and resilience
Synchronized diving intricacies
The value of Olympic dreams
Quotes:
"I did a lot of sports growing up. I did swimming, I did diving, gymnastics, soccer, dance. I mean, I did it all."
"My parents made me and my sister feel so comfortable in just wanting to do whatever we wanted to do in life."
"I just remember Drew being like, 'Do you think that you can make an Olympic team right now?' And I was just like, 'No.' And he was like, 'Well, I do.'"
"I think crazy things can happen in a small amount of time, so don't ever count yourself out.”
"It literally changes everything when you think differently, right? And you're like evidence of that right here."
"It's so important. It is definitely a difference-maker. And even if you have to preface it like, 'Hey, I don't want to hurt your feelings, I love you guys, but this is just what I need right now. And I just really would love and appreciate that support.’"
"It's never just yourself, it's always this army that you have behind you. And so that's what makes it really special."
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101. Learning to be in the Moment with 5 time World Medalist Diver Katrina Young
Welcome to the latest exciting episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, where Laura is joined by the remarkable Katrina Young, a two-time Olympian and five-time world medalist in diving for an inspiring journey through Katrina's life and career. Starting with her outstanding achievements in both gymnastics and diving during her formative years, Katrina's story reflects her steadfast ambition throughout as, despite the fact that her college dreams in sports didn't come to fruition, she persevered, ultimately propelling herself towards Olympic greatness. As she now prepares for the 2024 World Aquatic Championships in Doha and aims for her third Olympic appearance in Paris, Katrina's path is filled with highs, lows, and a focus on authentic competition.
Laura and Katrina embark upon this remarkable voyage of ambition, self-discovery, and the relentless pursuit of Olympic gold by delving into Katrina's gymnastics-to-diving transition, her familial inspiration from her Olympian grandmother, her transformative mindset shift, and her candid discussion on handling performance anxiety. This inspiring conversation provides invaluable insights into the trials of Olympic competition, the post-Olympic challenges athletes face, the pursuit of a music career alongside diving, life-altering decisions, and the significance of trust and authenticity in the competitive arena. Katrina Young's captivating journey, balancing both diving and music careers, reminds us that the pursuit of passion and authenticity is the true path to greatness. Don't miss out on this engaging episode, as it resonates with ambition, offers inspiration, and underscores the relentless pursuit of one's dreams.
Episode Highlights:
Katrina's dual background in gymnastics and diving
The profound influence of her grandmother, an Olympian in track and field, on Katrina's ambition and determination
The challenges Katrina faced during her college years and the pivotal shift in her mindset
The significant transition to coach John Proctor and the crucial moments leading up to the 2016 Olympics
The importance of authenticity and staying true to oneself in the competitive world
Dealing with the pressures of nerves and performance anxiety as a competitive athlete
Katrina's ongoing journey of self-discovery and personal growth in pursuit of Olympic success
Exploring post-Olympic challenges, including the phenomenon of "post-Olympic blues," and how music played a healing role
Quote:
"When you're going after your dreams, you don't feel like you have a choice."
"No matter what great things our coach says or our friends say, it's our voice in our head 24/7."
"It felt a little bit scary to have that much time to think about the possibilities."
"I felt like I had to change who I was to become an Olympian, and that's not the truth."
"For me, it's more of a performance than anything."
"It's a very ironic mix of emotions for me. Every time going into it, I'm like, “I'm going to throw up.””
"Fear is totally normal. It's a totally human thing. But that is also the only time that you can be courageous."
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97. When Your Hobby Becomes Your Profession with Rugby Olympian Naya Tapper
Joining Laura on the podcast this week is Naya Tapper, a thoroughly remarkable 2020 Olympian and professional women's rugby player who, after earning All-American track and field honors in high school, began her rugby career at UNC Chapel Hill where she starred from 2012-2016. Having turned professional in 2016, Naya has since become the All-Time leading try scorer for USA Women’s Eagles, and some highlights from her illustrious career include the 2017 Sydney Sevens Player of the Final, 2017 Sydney Sevens Dream Team, 2017 Vegas Sevens Dream Team, 2018 Rugby World Cup second leading try scorer, and 2018 HSBC Dream Team. She has also earned a silver medal at the 2017 Dubai Sevens Tournament, a gold medal at the 2019 Biarritz Olympique Pays Basque, a silver medal at the 2019 Pan American Games, and was a member of USA Rugby’s 2020 Olympic team that competed in Tokyo.
Naya's incredible odyssey from her collegiate discovery of rugby to Olympic glory, as shared here today stands as a resounding testament to her steadfast resilience and dedication. Together, she and Laura discuss navigating the challenges of professional rugby, the mental toughness of elite athletes, appearing on Project Runway, and the journey to the Tokyo Olympics. Naya's passion for supporting youth rugby players through the Naya Tapper Scholarship and her dynamic brand, "Naya on Fiya” shine brightly throughout the episode, and listeners will also gain a glimpse into her aspirations beyond her athletic career, particularly in the realm of sports business. Naya's remarkable story is one that resonates far beyond sports, exemplifying the power of unwavering perseverance and the relentless pursuit of one's dreams.
Episode Highlights:
Naya's journey from discovering rugby in college
The importance of having a backup plan in professional rugby
Overcoming adversity and making a comeback in the sport
Building a personal brand and preparing for the Olympics
Highlighting the beauty of diversity and unity in sports
Favorite international rugby destinations, like Dubai and South Africa
Insights into the Olympic selection process and the importance of staying healthy
The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on training and team dynamics
Naya’s future aspirations
Quotes:
"It was destiny because my college coach had connections with the national rugby team."
"I got cut from the team. My immediate reaction was, 'I'll just go back to North Carolina and start applying for PT schools.'"
"It's always for me, like, 'Okay, what's the next move? How do I get back on my feet?'"
"It was nice to be able to chill and relax and let my body decompress and spend time with family and friends that you miss out on a lot when you're full time in this type of profession."
"As long as I can stay healthy and continue performing at the level I am, I have the best shot I can possibly provide myself."
"Sports have literally changed my life. So to be able to provide that opportunity for people who also want to have that experience, I think was really important to me."
"Nobody really knows how to sell you better than you can sell yourself."
"I've officially strayed away from PT school mainly because I really don't want to go back to school."
"I think something that I've gained a passion for is just sports business."
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92. Paving Your Own Path with 2x Olympic Skier Tricia Mangan
In this week’s captivating episode of The Pursuit of Gold, Laura welcomes the truly remarkable Tricia Mangan, a trailblazing skier who defied conventional norms to ascend to the pinnacle of her sport. As a two time Olympian, the 2023 US. National champion, six time North American Cup title winner, NCAA All American and All Academic Team member, and recent Dartmouth College Mechanical Engineering graduate, Tricia's story is a testament to the power of determination, resilience, and the pursuit of dreams regardless of challenges encountered. Today’s episode immerses listeners in the multi-faceted world of athletic excellence, exploring the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual tools that empower athletes like Tricia to achieve greatness.
As you will hear, Tricia’s journey to the Olympics was nothing short of extraordinary. Initially an alternate, she received a last-minute call to join the Olympic team and faced the whirlwind of preparations. The episode highlights her emotions and experiences during this roller-coaster ride, from the excitement of Olympic swag shopping to dealing with self-imposed pressure and doubt. As you dive into this episode, you will gain invaluable insights into Tricia's underdog mindset, her meteoric rise to becoming a two-time Olympian and 2023 US National champion, and her tireless dedication to inspiring the next generation of athletes to relentlessly pursue their dreams. Throughout their conversation, Tricia and Laura also shed light on the inspiring connection between Tricia and her brother (and guest on The Pursuit of Gold Episode 84), para rower Andrew Mangan. Tricia’s incredible journey, as shared here today, serves as a shining example of relentless commitment and the drive to succeed, reaffirming that even amidst the most formidable challenges, athletes can evolve, learn, and continue to pave their own path in their pursuit of gold.
Episode Highlights:
Insights into the tight-knit Mangan family
Tricia's passion for skiing and soccer
The underdog mindset driving Tricia's journey to success
Balancing student-athlete life at Dartmouth College while chasing skiing dreams
Tricia's triumphant return to the US Ski Team
Her Olympic journey
Valuable lessons on process-oriented goal setting
Finding victories in every experience
The mental aspects of competition, handling pressure, and embracing challenges
Quotes:
"I knew that my path made me an underdog, but it was that very mindset that fueled my passion for always improving on and off the hill."
"My twin brother and I were six when we started ski racing. I just loved it because all of our friends did it, kind of the cool kids at the club did it."
"Growing up, I always knew that there were so many better girls out there, so I truly just focused on myself."
"I've learned the most about myself, and I still feel it's just a never-ending challenge."
"Everyone has their own lived experiences, and there's nothing wrong with feeling bad about a race. Like, you put a ton of work into that."
"I just feel so thankful and grateful for all the support I've received, and the most special moments are definitely for me being able to give back and share my journey."
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91. Think Big, Act Small with 2x Olympic Medalist Skier Shannon Bahrke
Two-time Olympic medalist and three-time Olympian in skiing, Shannon Bahrke, joins Laura for this week’s fascinating episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast. In addition to her Silver and Bronze Olympic medals, Shannon’s achievements over her astonishing 12-year career include being a member of the U.S. “A’ Team, earning 7 World Cup victories and 6 U.S. National titles, and winning the Overall World Cup title in 2003 , despite enduring multiple major injuries. Since retiring from her sport, she has gone on to create the Team Empower Hour made up of Olympians who empower corporate leaders and teams around the globe through leadership development, team building, keynote speeches, and fitness workout classes.
Today, Shannon shares details of her extraordinary journey, and, together with Laura, explores such themes such as purpose, resilience, and the power of mental training in sports. The episode delves into Shannon's early introduction to aerial skiing, her childhood in Lake Tahoe, and her love for adventure sports. It highlights her transition to mogul skiing and the pivotal role of community and freedom in her skiing passion. Shannon's journey from the University of Utah to competing at the World Cup level sheds light on the challenges she faced, and her accounts of using journaling and visualization in training and competitions underscore the roller coaster of success that defined her Olympic path. Shannon's story, as told here today, serves as a testament to the importance of mental and emotional resilience, seizing opportunities, and embracing unity and patriotism on a global scale. You owe it to yourself to join in on this remarkable journey, as Shannon's inspiring tale exemplifies the indomitable spirit of athletes who choose resilience and triumph, leaving an enduring legacy in the world of sports and beyond.
Episode Highlights:
Shannon's journey and her resilience and determination to overcome setbacks
Her development of mental toughness, a vital quality for elite athletes
The pivotal role of positive self-talk
The power of visualization
Falling in love with mogul skiing
The importance of seizing opportunities even when faced with adversity
Shannon's ability to bounce back from injuries and setbacks
Choosing resilience and turning failures into stepping stones toward success
Quotes:
"It was hard, it was difficult, it had so many challenges, but it had all of these super crazy and wild people just like me, so it seemed like a perfect fit."
"I'm a natural problem solver, and I like when people tell you can't do it."
"That was the moment that I first started to use visualization, closing my eyes and experiencing and seeing what it is that I wanted."
"We can be the best at our sport, but the difference is in your mental and emotional resilience."
"I could be the person that could change the world as a female to do these things."
"When you have a purpose that's greater than yourself, that gives you the ability to do things you wouldn't normally be able to do."
"Our destiny isn't given to us; we have the choice to make it."
"This is the resilience that I need right now to dig deep and be my best self and show the world what I am truly made of."
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90. Honor Your Goals with 2x World Champion Water Polo Player Jaime Komer
Welcome to yet another elite episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, as Laura takes the plunge into the remarkable journey of Jaime Komer, two-time World Champion and Olympic Silver Medalist in water polo. Drawing from this storied Olympic career and her own personal journey of self-discovery, Jaime has gone on to guide Olympians, Paralympians, professional athletes, women's groups, business executives, parents and entrepreneurs alike through challenging transitions they’ve encountered, all with compassion and an open mindset. The Founder of Consciously Connected, a personal growth consultancy, our multifaceted guest has also created a new and unique practice for self-exploration and personal growth known as The Kampfire, and, as if that’s not enough, serves as the host of the Consciously Connected Podcast. This girl gets things done!
As you will hear, Jaime's narrative is nothing short of inspiring, encompassing a journey of transcending boundaries in Central California by initially joining a boys' water polo team to eventually achieving global acclaim. What truly distinguishes Jaime, though, is her transition from the pinnacle of sports to becoming a facilitator, guiding individuals and groups to embrace authenticity and prioritize emotional well-being. Today’s conversation unravels the spectrum of Jaime's insights, including the importance of setting ambitious goals and unleashing the power of creative imagery and visualization techniques. Uncovering the peaks and valleys of Jaime's athletic odyssey - from the heights of Olympic Silver glory to the emotional turbulence of facing rejection - her narrative embodies the indomitable spirit required to chase dreams while imparting invaluable wisdom for all. Join Laura and Jaime here today for this testament to resilience and determination, and immerse yourself in the wealth of knowledge, advice, inspiration and motivation to be found in this riveting installment of the Pursuit of Gold podcast.
Episode Highlights:
Jaime's remarkable journey
Goal setting and perseverance
Authenticity and emotional well-being
Visualization techniques
Navigating life transitions
Olympic dreams and training
The Olympic experience
Navigating career transitions
Quotes:
"It's really hard because you're like this tight-knit family, and at the same time, there's a very competitive energy in it because you don't know who or what's going to happen."
"It felt like such an honor. It felt like such a proud moment in my life, and for our team to be there. And then at an individual level, I'm kind of working with my own emotions, my own mental health."
"It is a funny experience because you are feeling so many things, and it's so exciting at the same time."
"We went in going big. And I think that's why it was so hard, actually when we did get silver.”
"Through coaching, by asking people questions and helping them find their own answers, you're way more motivated to do stuff."
"There's so much that can happen when we do share it, even if it's maybe not the most comfortable thing to start."
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89. Fall in Love with Failing with 3x World Champ Softball Player Haylie McCleney
In this week’s captivating episode, Laura is joined by the outstanding Olympic Silver medalist and softball legend, Haylie McCleney, for an entertaining and informative conversation chock-full of ‘mic drops and truth bombs’. Haylie's extraordinary journey began early in her life, fueled by an insatiable passion for sports and an unwavering commitment to excellence. Graduating with a degree in Human Performance from the University of Alabama and attaining a Master's in Exercise Physiology at Florida Atlantic University, Haylie's dedication has ultimately led to her becoming a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (CSCS) with membership in the National Strength and Conditioning Association. Throughout her discussion with Laura today, Haylie shares invaluable insights touching on her approach to thriving as a leadoff hitter, embracing relentless presence, and the profound significance of playing the long game.
Key takeaways from the episode reveal Haylie's emphasis on prioritizing personal growth over mere trophies as well as valuing the role of a supportive teammate in boosting morale. She also illuminates the transformative power of journaling as a means to navigate emotions, set goals, and express intentions, offering an enriching perspective on personal growth and competition. While recounting her journey to the Olympics, which saw the unique challenge of softball's temporary removal from the Games, Haylie's tenacity shines through in her work to realize her dream of representing the USA in Tokyo. The complexities posed by the COVID-19 pandemic are addressed as well, emphasizing the importance of stability during uncertain times. Haylie McCleney's inspiring narrative, as shared here today, stands as a testament to relentless dedication, unwavering commitment, and the unending pursuit of excellence - a truly inspiring tale brimming with invaluable wisdom born out of extensive and elite experience.
Episode Highlights:
The pursuit of personal growth and competition over mere trophies
Being a supportive and uplifting teammate in sports
Dedication to playing the long game and maintaining focus
The distractions and obligations faced while playing professional softball.
Navigating the unique challenges of an Olympic journey
Coping with disappointment
The importance of resilience and team bonding
Positive aspects of unconventional Olympics
Journaling for mental health
Quotes:
"You've got to be really in love with failing and learning from your failure."
"I was raised to begin with the end in mind and trust that the effort you put in today, weeks, months, years from now, you're going to see the benefits of it."
"Softball can be my year-round, full-time job. I can sign one contract, and that's enough money for me to make an incredible living."
"What if we try out again and get cut? What if I was an Olympian? But now I'm not an Olympian. Do I still say I'm an Olympian?"
"I might as well just have some fun, like, continue to play softball."
"Time heals everything."
"Play the long game, try to see the long game as best you can."
"Every single second matters."
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88. Hitting New Heights with High Jump Olympian & Pro Volleyball Player Erin Aldrich-Shean
In today's very special episode, Laura is honored to welcome Erin Aldridge-Shean, a true multi-sport athlete extraordinaire whose many achievements include being a 2000 US Olympian in track and field as well as a five-time US National Volleyball Team member. In this riveting conversation, Erin recounts her inspiring journey, shares insights into crucial issues within the NCAA system, and offers valuable guidance to athletes and heartwarming tales of transformation along the way.
Our guest’s remarkable career shines a spotlight on the potency of multidisciplinary athleticism and perseverance in the pursuit of Olympic aspirations. Together, she and Laura uncover the advantages and hurdles of engaging in multiple sports, the significance of setting audacious goals, and the paramount importance of ensuring a safe experience for all involved in sports. Erin's perspectives on the realm of collegiate sports and her dedication to helping individuals unlock their inner Olympian provide invaluable lessons for budding athletes and those in search of inspiration. Join Laura and Erin here today for this thought-provoking discussion on resilience, career transitions, and the importance of addressing misconduct in sports.
Episode Highlights
Erin's remarkable journey balancing collegiate sports
The importance of ambitious goals and pursuit of Olympic excellence in multiple sports
Challenges and rewards of participating in various sports during youth and high school
Erin's insights into crucial NCAA issues and advice for athletes
Heartwarming stories of transformation and resilience
Multidisciplinary athleticism's power in Olympic dreams
Awakening the inner Olympian
The power of resilience, determination, and family support in overcoming challenges and personal growth
Quotes:
"Participating in multiple sports during my youth allowed me to develop exceptional body awareness skills that translated into success in volleyball and track."
"The NCAA system has its challenges, but it's essential to raise awareness about issues like grooming and abuse, and I'm committed to helping athletes navigate these challenges."
"I just remember being so relieved that someone from my family was there. I just felt the love."
"Seize the moment, seize the day, because you never know if you're going to get another shot."
"I was never going to be 6’3”. I was going to be stuck at 6’1”, and that's something that you can't coach."
"I think that is actually my calling. I completely quit my career in commercial real estate and I launched Ascension Coaching."
"I believe that everyone has an Olympian within them. Whatever that looks like, you just have to find it and tap into it."
"Grooming, obviously, because it hits so close to home for me, is such a scary thing because you start to trust these people."
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87. Your Sport is Not Your Identity with Olympic Weightlifter Carissa Gordon Gump
Welcome to yet another captivating episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast, where, this week, Laura Wilkinson reconnects with Carissa Gordon Gump, USA Weightlifting Hall of Fame inductee, the first 63 Kilogram American woman to qualify and compete at the Olympic Games, multiple American record holder, and five time consecutive American Open Champion. Carissa currently serves as the Executive Director for the National Strength and Conditioning Association Foundation and is part of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Athlete Presenter Team, so you know she has a lot of knowledge and experience to share with everyone.
Her journey, as shared here today, serves as a powerful reminder of the potential challenges athletes face during their transition from elite sports to retirement, and emphasizes the importance of having a well-thought-out plan and discovering new passions to lead a fulfilling post-athletic career. She also highlights The National Strength and Conditioning Association Foundation's role and her own dedication to staying active and healthy, even after retiring from competitive weightlifting. Overall, this episode offers valuable insights into the world of Olympic weightlifting, the pursuit of Olympic dreams, the critical importance of clean sport advocacy, and the potential fate of weightlifting in the Olympics. You do not want to miss this one.
And you do not want to miss Laura’s transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.
Episode Highlights:
Carissa’s "Golden Prison" experience
Overcoming Impostor Syndrome
Pursuing Olympic dreams
Balancing education and sport
Carissa's transition from athlete to a professional
The value of knowledge and intelligence beyond athletic accomplishments
Seeing sport as a component of life, not the entirety of one's identity
Carissa’s Olympic journey and challenges
The potential fate of Olympic weightlifting
Quotes:
"’We can guarantee you a spot in February of 2001, but, like in June when you graduate high school, I don't know if we're going to have anything available for you.’ And I said, ‘I'll be there.’"
"I need to prepare for life after sport, and so that's what going to school was doing for me."
"What I would really encourage athletes to recognize, is: your sport, yes, it is a part of who you are, but it is not you. It doesn't define who you are for the rest of your life. You have other identities as well."
"I am still part of sport but just in a very different way."
"You still need to have a plan to make sure that you, as a person, are fulfilled and have some sort of direction in your life."
"Unfortunately, doping issues have been very common in the sport of weightlifting."
"You don't just disappear. You still need to have a little sprinkle of whatever in your life."
"Weightlifting is on the chopping block for 2028.”
"I like to say we're the science behind strength and conditioning."
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86. Mastering Visualization: 8 Common Mistakes Athletes Must Avoid
Laura goes solo here today to unravel the intricacies of visualization, an indispensable mental tool that underpins athletic success. With her trademark eloquence and expertise, she dissects the eight common missteps athletes often make when navigating the realm of visualization, emphasizing its paramount role in achieving sports-related aspirations. Laura transcends the conventional wisdom that physical prowess alone suffices, acknowledging the array of challenges athletes face, from injuries to burnout, mental roadblocks, and performance anxiety.
As the episode unfolds, visualization is heralded as a transformative skill that can reshape athletes’ journeys, and with our host’s seasoned guidance and personal anecdotes, listeners gain the tools needed to unlock their full potential, not only in sports but also in life beyond the arena. She reminds us all that excellence doesn't solely hinge on physical exertion but also on cultivating a resilient and strategic mindset. Join Laura here today as she unveils the secrets to successful visualization, affirming that the pursuit of gold demands not only physical dedication but also the bolstering of mental fortitude—a journey well worth embarking upon.
More key components for this journey can be found in Laura’s transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.
Episode Highlights:
Visualization takes practice
Start small, grow big
Sitting up matters
Eyes closed, mind open
Modeling vs. visualization
Diverse approaches to visualization
Consistency is key
Quotes:
"Just like physical training, mental training like visualization also takes practice and time."
"Start small and you can always grow bigger."
"It's actually much more functional and effective if you are sitting up and thinking through the process."
"When you close your eyes, it helps you see the images in your mind clearer instead of having your eyes open and distracted."
"With consistency, with consistent practice, you will get better at visualization also."
"This is a mindset skill you are growing. Build that consistency and it will become easier for you."
"When you can also take time to just visualize in your head alone without the action, you're actively kind of rewiring your brain in ways you might not be able to yet with the actions attached to it."
"You have to have patience with yourself. It takes practice. Mental training, real quality mental training, takes practice."
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85. Sobriety, World Records & Fighting for Women's Sports with Powerlifter April Hutchinson
This week, Laura is joined by the remarkable April Hutchinson, reigning North American Deadlift record holder in the domain of powerlifting, who shares her inspiring tale of resilience that has led to her ascending to the global stage in a remarkably short time span. Utilizing powerlifting as a catalyst to conquer addiction and mental health challenges, April has also emerged as a vocal advocate for women's rights in sports. Today, she candidly addresses the complexities of competing against male athletes, the significance of providing a platform for women's voices, and the need to preserve the integrity of women's sports.
With Laura, April explores the controversies arising from the inclusion of transgender athletes in women's sports, and highlights the importance of standing up for women's rights and equitable competition, even in the face of opposition. Their discussion also delves into the impact of transgender athletes on women's sports, the differentiation between competition categories, and the empowerment of athletes to advocate for change. April goes on to recount her own experiences competing against male athletes, and her aspirations for gold in future competitions. With April's journey as the backdrop, today’s episode fosters a compelling dialogue about the healing power of sports, gender equity, and the unwavering spirit of athletes dedicated to preserving the integrity of women's athletics.
In more great news, Laura is reintroducing her transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.
Episode Highlights:
April's journey from addiction to triumph and sobriety
Powerlifting as a catalyst for personal growth and empowerment
Competing against male athletes and advocating for women's rights
The story of the biological male going by the name Anne Andres
Powerlifting's synergy with mental health and physical empowerment
April's training routine and aspirations for future competitions
Navigating transgender athletes' impact on women's sports
Advocacy for equity and women's rights amidst challenges and opposition
Quotes:
"A lot of women are silenced and feel silenced... April is leading the charge, hoping to inspire courage in others to speak up as well."
"COVID was so horrible for probably 90% of people, but for me, it was actually my blessing because I got sober a couple of months prior."
"I want to work on my squat and I want to work on my bench... I want to just keep getting better and better and better."
"In 2026, the Commonwealth Games will be in Australia, so I want to go there and sweep up all the records in the Commonwealth Games."
"The first step we need to do is obviously just educate people, right? I mean, when I first started this, people would call me a bigot or transphobic, right?”
"We need to fight for girls in sports, our future generations."
"If you stick up for fairness and truth, you can have a great sleep at night."
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83. Growing into a Leader with Swimming Olympic Medalist Elizabeth Beisel
In today’s episode, Laura engages in a captivating conversation with none other than Elizabeth Beisel, the 3-time Olympian and 2-time medalist, who was voted by her teammates to be the 2016 Captain of the US Olympic Team. Elizabeth’s journey, marked by her Olympic debut at the age of 15 and extensive subsequent success, unfolds as a tapestry of determination, resilience, and triumph over adversity. The episode offers a deep dive into Beisel's formative experiences, her trajectory towards becoming a swimming champion, and the transformative shifts in mindset that propelled her to her remarkable achievements. Throughout the discussion, themes of tenacious determination, the significance of self-belief, and the profound influence of mentorship are interwoven, presenting an inspiring illustration of the pursuit of excellence in both athletic and broader life contexts.
Elizabeth’s voyage within the realm of swimming serves as a testament to the confluence of ambition and unwavering dedication. Accomplishing feats both in and out of the pool, Beisel adeptly balanced her academic pursuits, emerging with a distinguished 3.9 GPA and clinching the esteemed 2011 NCAA Division One Scholar Athlete All American of the Year award before moving on to her storied Olympic career. Ultimately transcending the competitive sphere, Beisel found a new vocation as a talented and insightful media contributor, commentator and author, adding depth to audiences' engagement with the sport. Noteworthy among her endeavors is her charitable initiative, Block Cancer, wherein Beisel embarked on a remarkable nonstop swim that raised an impressive $600,000 for cancer research and clinical trials. A luminary both within the world of sport and beyond, Elizabeth’s tale, as shared here today, is as fascinating as it is inspiring - definitely one you do not want to miss.
Episode Highlights:
Elizabeth's inspirational journey
Her self-confidence and mindset shifts
Mentorship and achievement
Authenticity and connection
Triumph over challenges
Transition and charity
Olympics: reality vs. perception
Michael Phelps' Legacy and Motivation
Quotes:
"I remember distinctly watching the 2000 Sydney Olympics on TV. I was seven years old, and it was the first time I'd ever seen my sport swimming on television. It was the first time that I also grasped the enormity and weight of the Olympic Games."
"If there's one thing that I would love for any athlete or whoever it is to take away from this podcast, is like, you can do all of the reps in whatever it is that you do, but if you are not actively practicing how to be confident and believing in yourself, it's never going to click."
"It's cool to trace a lot of things back to one pivotal conversation. Like one person made that difference."
"I had this rosy colored view of the Olympics because all I had exposure to was what I saw on TV and all of the teams that I had been on leading up to the Olympics."
"I think my brain was like, well, I didn't win. I don't have a gold medal yet, so I do want to keep going."
"Self-reflection and a desire for personal growth guide decisions about the future."
"My best type of leadership is just serving others."
"Your life is a constant roller coaster."
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82. The Next Best Run with 2 Time Olympian Kim Conley
Two-time Olympian and renowned runner, Kim Conley, joins Laura on the podcast this week to share her incredible story of defying all odds to reach the pinnacle of her sport. From facing disappointments in college to becoming an Olympian with her first endorsement deal within just three years, Kim's tale is a testament to the power of perseverance and self-belief. In addition to her prowess on the track, she also operates a successful coaching company which caters to runners of all abilities across the nation. Today, this very special guest details the many powerful lessons she has learned during her unforgettable journey of passion, triumph, and dedication.
Throughout this fascinating conversation, Kim recounts her road to the Olympics, her transition to marathon running, the challenges she faced during her athletic career, and how she balanced her personal life with her professional ambitions. She highlights the significance of teamwork in running, where even middle-of-the-pack athletes play crucial roles in team scores, and notes that her love for running and the joy she finds in the sport have been the driving forces behind her success and continued dedication to the marathon. The life-changing grant that allowed her to devote herself wholly to training for the Olympic Trials, and the sheer determination and courage she demonstrated in securing her place in the Olympics by a razor-thin margin are also discussed. Kim goes on to introduce her coaching business, "Next Best Run," and her plans for the future, including her quest for the 2024 Paris Olympics. As you will hear, Kim Conley’s story, as shared here today, is a truly remarkable one of grit, passion, and seizing the moment that will undoubtedly leave you inspired to pursue your own dreams, no matter what obstacles you may encounter in your path.
Episode Highlights:
Overcoming disappointments.
The value of teamwork
Setting ambitious goals
Finding joy in running
Pursuing excellence
Striving for support and independence
Kim’s make-or-break moment
Tactical Olympic trials
Quotes:
"Sometimes we just need to give ourselves the opportunity to do great things. All of our paths to get there may look different, but every effort we make matters."
"I was really focused on really helping the coaches with the recruiting process and trying to build up the team so that we could be the type of team that would qualify for Nationals."
"I felt like, ‘Wow, in three years, if I keep making progress, could I get to the Olympic Trials? Would that make me feel accomplished and make up for this huge, heartbreaking disappointment with college?’"
"I just need to stop fixating on the outcome and just try to run as hard as I possibly can to see where that lands me."
"A lot of it is about where running is fitting into a person's life and how they're feeling. And so I like to have a lot of communication and interaction with the people that I work with."
"With the support of coaches, with the support of my family, I kind of set that goal of ‘I want to be at the Olympic Trials in three years.’ And so that's how I decided to keep pursuing it after college."
"I want to be a runner for my entire life.”
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80. Shattering Expectations with 6 Time Paralympic Medalist McKenzie Coan
Laura is back and she is joined by the truly exceptional McKenzie Coan, a Paralympic swimmer whose remarkable journey has resulted in thoroughly stellar achievements. McKenzie’s story is a testament to the indomitable human spirit, demonstrating that anything is possible when you put your heart and mind to it. In today’s powerful conversation, she reveals the mindset skills that have fueled her success, and emphasizes the significance of resilience, determination, staying present, and embracing challenges as opportunities for growth.
From being diagnosed with Osteogenesis Imperfecta at just 19 days old, McKenzie's life has exceeded all expectations as she consistently defied limitations set by others. Through aqua therapy and unwavering support from her parents, McKenzie's love for water became a source of rejuvenation that propelled her to ultimately become a three-time U.S. Paralympian, a six-time Paralympic medalist, and a world record holder. In today’s episode, she delves into such topics as the emotional turmoil of team selection, the impact of the Paralympic Games, and the importance of mental strength in facing uncertainties leading up to the Tokyo Paralympics. McKenzie also offers her insights on adaptive sports, strength training, and the emotional rollercoaster of pursuing Paralympic excellence. Noting the profound impact of support from family, coaches, and teammates, she also highlights the power of embracing life's challenges to pursue your dreams with belief and determination. Join Laura and McKenzie here today for this remarkable journey of defying limitations and achieving greatness, as they reveal the fact that the pursuit of gold is not just about winning medals; it's about finding freedom in your passion and pushing yourself to new heights.
Episode Highlights:
The belief McKenzie's parents instilled in her that anything was possible
How swimming became McKenzie's refuge
Balancing ambitious goals with living in the present moment
How McKenzie’s discovery of the Paralympic Games inspired her
The power of resilience and determination
Overcoming adversity and pursuing dreams
The emotional turmoil of team selection
McKenzie’s journey towards Paris 2024
Growth, resilience, and the power of rewiring the mind for success
Quotes:
"Through every broken bone, every setback, every obstacle, McKenzie has never lost hope, and neither should you."
"I think it is really good to have your mind already set in what your next goal might be or achieving the goal that you're just starting to work towards now."
"For the first time in my life, I saw athletes who had a disability, who looked like me, with gold medals around their neck and… I realized that this dream is a possibility for me.”
"The things that happen to us either become things that happen to us or things that happen for us. That's up to you to decide in the moment."
"Everything I've been through in the last few years has led me to this moment. This is my time to go out and show them how strong I am."
"Seeing all the athletes from all the other nations, and we're all so different…but we all are coming together to do one thing, and none of that matters for the next week or two."
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75. It's Never Too Late with Aunty Skates
In today’s episode, Laura welcomes Oorbee Roy, also known as Aunty Skates, to the podcast to discuss her journey of becoming a skateboarder in her 40’s as well as her enormous social media success. Together, they discuss the mental and emotional challenges of learning a new sport, overcoming self-doubt, and the impact of Oorbee's positive message on her TikTok followers. Oorbee shares information regarding her upcoming free clinic, "It's Never Too Late to Skate with Aunty Skates", this May in Toronto, which is open to anyone who wants to start skateboarding. She and Laura also discuss the toxic Aunty culture prevalent in South Asian communities and how Oorbee created the character of Aunty Skates to offer a safe space for South Asian women to pursue their dreams.
They go on to explore the sense of belonging that skateboarding can provide to adults, and how it allows adults to step outside their comfort zone and experience the liberating feeling of play, without fear of judgment or criticism. The importance of finding connections with children through shared interests, modeling perseverance and kindness, and investing time in activities with them to build strong relationships and promote healthy development are all topics that are discussed as well. Laura and Oorbee both emphasize the value of being invested in their children's interests and activities to create meaningful connections, and being positive role models online to help children deal with negativity. The episode concludes with a reflection on the joys of parenting and the importance of being present in their children's lives.
Episode Highlights:
Oorbee Roy, and the origin of Aunty Skates
Documenting her skateboarding journey on TikTok
Aunty Skates’ message
Inspiring others to pursue their dreams and live their best lives
Finding joy in the journey and not being too hard on yourself
Offering a safe space for South Asian women to pursue their dreams
The toxic Aunty culture is a result of generational trauma that Oorbee wants to break.
Inspiring others to break down barriers in their own lives.
Stepping outside your comfort zone and experiencing the liberating feeling of play.
How skateboarding has allowed her to parent in a unique and fun way.
Creating special connections with children.
The importance of being invested in children's interests and activities
Modeling perseverance and kindness
The joys of parenting
Celebrating the journey, not just the successes
Giving children the confidence they need to navigate online negativity
Dealing with hate on social media
Building resilience
Quotes:
"It's never too late to live your best life."
"It's really about finding joy in the journey."
"You have to be your biggest fan."
"I think it's really important to inspire people to take that first step."
"I want to be a safe space for young South Asian women to come and know that anything is possible."
"I have compassion for that Aunty generation now, but I don't want to repeat that."
"You hit a spot, a sensitive spot, and something a lot of people needed to hear."
"It's a mental health break that we all need."
"I want to provide that opportunity for people because it's such a joyful experience."
"Watching the surprise on their faces when they land the tricks, and then when they get the high from skating and the endorphins start coming in, I'm like, yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it."
"Every time they see me fall, they see me get back up."
"I do a lot of parenting at the skatepark, which is great. It's great multitasking."
"Finding a connection point with your kids...I think is really invaluable."
"I guess we see each other's journey, and that's one thing I find really special about the skating community."
"I think a lot of it is about confidence."
"I'm out there skating in my sari and I feel like a freaking superhero."
"They see how joyful I am, they see how confident I am."
"Social media is great, and it can be a virus. Like, it can be awful."
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74. Fighting for Female Athletes & Women's Sports with NCAA Swimmer Riley Gaines
In the latest episode of Pursuit of Gold, Riley Gaines, a recent graduate from the University of Kentucky and a twelve-time NCAA All American swimmer, joins Laura for an important discussion regarding the controversial inclusion of biological males in women's sports. Riley shares her experience competing against transgender swimmer Lia Thomas at the Women's NCAA Championships in March 2022, and exposes the negative consequences of allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. Their discussion highlights the importance of recognizing the injustice and the need to ensure fairness and opportunities for female athletes.
The episode explores the emotional toll that silencing female athletes who speak out against allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports has on these athletes, and the lack of fairness in competition. The discussion also touches on the need for better policies to address the issue, given the significant impact it has on the integrity of women's sports, and the disturbing silencing of those who wish to speak out about it. Laura and Riley go on to analyze the recent ruling by FINA that addresses the issue of trans athletes competing in female events, which, while a step in the right direction, still has flaws that need to be addressed. Together, they emphasize the need for fairness in sports and Riley recounts her involvement with Independent Women's Forum, highlighting the work they are doing to protect women's sports and uphold Title IX policies. Their message here today is clear: the inclusion of biological males in women's sports has significant negative consequences that affect the integrity of sport, and it is essential to continue to have open and honest discussions to address this issue in order to ultimately create policies that ensure fairness for female athletes. As is clearly noted, "This episode is not to say whether someone's chosen lifestyle is acceptable, it's to expose how biological males are taking opportunities away from biological females in sport."
Episode Highlights:
Women's sports and the inclusion of biological males
Riley’s experience competing against Lia Thomas
Negative consequences and impact of allowing biological males to participate in women's sports
Unfairness in competition for biological females
The importance of addressing this issue openly
The role of NCAA in dealing with the issue
Protecting and providing fair opportunities for biological females in sports
Physical advantages that biological men have over women in sports
The need for more nuanced rules governing transgender athletes in sports
The importance of having conversations about these issues in order to find solutions
The silencing of female athletes who speak out against transgender athletes competing in women's sports
Title IX policies
FINA’s recent ruling
The idea of transitioning before the age of twelve
Rulings from other sports organizations
Trans athletes competing in contact sports
Staying up to date on this issue
Supporting the organizations fighting for women's rights in sports
Following updates on Riley’s Twitter and Instagram accounts
Quotes:
"Many coaches and athletes don't want to discuss this publicly because they fear losing their jobs, scholarships, or their spot on the team."
"The whole point of creating women's sports was to have fair competition."
"I'm bringing this topic to light because it is absolutely destroying women's sports and the ability for girls and women to train, compete, and live their lives both fairly and safely."
"Women are, of course, strong and have done phenomenal things. There's phenoms in so many sports across swimming, but of course, that's in relation to your physical capabilities that your body has."
"I think the rules need to be more nuanced, and I think there needs to be more conversation around it... I don't think the current rules are sufficient."
"I'm fortunate, my coach never tried to silence me, my athletic department never tried to silence me. But talking with these other girls, the amount of silencing and the amount of emotional blackmail and just threatening and intimidation that these schools and these administrations put on these girls is mind blowing."
"This is a massive level of abuse, in my opinion."
"It just felt like a massive disregard for the work that we put in and the hours that we spent in the pool and the sacrifices that we made."
"I think it's really important to stay up to date on this topic because if not, you'll kind of fall into this believing this lie, that this is a non-issue, this is something the Republicans just want to be hateful about. But that's not true."
"I'm not going to sit and complain about something and do nothing about it. And so Independent Women's Forum has just been fantastic in allowing me to do that."
"I actually think that's what makes this issue so special is it’s something that no parent, regardless of where you align politically, wants their daughter to be exposed to."
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